Introducing: Speak, Nerd, and Enter!
Hello! Welcome to “Speak, Nerd, and Enter,” your one stop shop to talk about well, anything!
You asked for it and while I mentioned this may not be an every single day routine, I will do my best to provide an open thread for readers and fans to chat about anything under the moon.
Take it away! And don’t forget the comment policy.
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almost time for a new open thread
For the Potter fans.
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It bothers me to no end that so many people feel Wonder Woman is inferior to Batman and Superman.
They wax poetic about how Batman never kills. How Superman always finds a solution to never killing. But many of those same people will say Wonder Woman is someone who does kill. That she is incapable of resolving a conflict without murder.
They justify this by saying ‘she makes the hard choices’ but In reality that just makes her no different from Wolverine and the Punisher.
And while they accept this idea of Wonder Woman as a murderer, if Batman or Superman ever takes a life, they scream out in rage and denial. Declaring that they are heroes, and that taking lives is something they would never do.
They might scream that there is a precedence for Wonder Woman killing unlike Superman and Batman. But killing supervillains is something those two have a history of. Unlike Wonder Woman who didn’t take a life until Ruckas run.
So in the end people who claim Wonder Woman kills but Superman and Batman never do might pretend that their not looking down on Wonder Woman, but the fact that they take issue with 2/3rds of the trinity ever taking a life but are perfectly happy to have the female icon as a murderer simply shows their double standard.
Do you think unfamiliarity with her history is to blame? I mean the whole idea of the character was a hero who fights with “the power of love” (obligatory: http://youtu.be/-NMph943tsw ), but there’s a lot of Nu52 newbies out there and the movie probably won’t help since it’s A: part of the DC Cinematic Murderverse and B: they’ve said they’re going with her demi-god origin.
Not just unfamiliarity with her history, but the fact that Wonder Woman in media has a history of being portrayed as far more violent in media.
Bruce Timms version outright showed hatred and loathing of the character. Keeping her away from the magic lasso, establishing she was the child of Hades, that her mother had nothing to do with her creation (As Hades created Wonder Woman wholly on his own.) Made her defining character traits a violent warlike behavior and that she mooned over Batman, madly in love with him because every woman in Bruce Timms mind wants to do Batman. the one storyline built around her being how Amazons and Wonder Woman need to stop man hating…
The animated Wonder Woman movie had Diana and the Amazons killing people in order to resolve conflict, and freely using swords.
Though I suppose between Ruckas ‘Wonder Woman lops off the heads of her enemies and will kill without hesitation!’ and azarellos murder rampage rawr versions in the comics dont do it any favors.
Woah, That Monetization Schism just called out the Big Boss! http://www.themarysue.com/mary-sue-site-feedback-changes/
Wow!
Considering that those changes supposedly came from above even his head, I’m guessing traffic must have taken an even more severe hit than I anticipated.
Their reaction was also much faster than expected, and was the best move they could have made to minimize the damage.
Sadly, I can sympathize with a few of the sentiments expressed as well. The methods of monetization available are simply inadequate. The subscription cost is asking for two much per person, and banner ads are statistically effective only 0.02% of the time (hence why we see them becoming ever increasingly intrusive. We need a better way for these sites to make money.
I can make up t-shirt designs they can sell! **photoshops a pic of a plate of eggs and sausage with the words “What About Thenis?!”**
**realizes hours later that a picture of two sunny-side up eggs with one long breakfast sausage might be too visually on the nose**
Maybe something like this instead? https://www.fsrmagazine.com/sites/rmgtmagazine.com/files/styles/story-top-photo/public/top_photos/sausage-center-plate.jpg
I’m glad I didn’t have anything in my mouth just then, because I would have spit it out I laughed so hard.
…Like, water or something. Is what I’m referring to having in my mouth. Not, um, anything else.
**tries desperately not to think of a “laugh so hard it comes out your nose” situation**
Why. Why would you put that mental image in my head.
Misery loves company?
I bet Jill’s real glad she decided to give us an open thread right about now.
Stop making me hungry.
He’s the owner of the company, there is no one above him.
Ahh, I confused him with someone else.
What I wouldn’t give to see the site traffic stats for the last week. Bet that’s a fun bit of reading.
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So much contempt in one .gif… Honestly, I’m just glad they decided to be upfront and were willing to fix things.
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Snake runs TMS?
Has anyone seen Civil War yet? How was it? I’m seeing it Friday afternoon and I’m pretty excited.
Me , too!
I’m taking me mum on Saturday afternoon. Already bought tickets.
I hope she can sit still for two and half hours. But she asked to go, and I think the theme will appeal to her leftist, progressive heart.
I give it 9 out of 10 shields.
This website has a ton of amazing animal live cams
Here’s one of a hummingbird nest http://explore.org/live-cams/player/bella-hummingbird-nest
Howdy, folks! Saw this today, think it’s well worth a gander.
And hellllloooo, Trevor.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/captain-america-civil-war-uses-a-real-african-language-1774959910
Well im not sure if I will frequent this one. But I do recognize some faces so… *waves*
*waves back*
I’m here everybody!
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BTW, all, I think I’ve decided the best course of action for these open threads is to put up a new one once the last one has gone off the front page. I don’t think there’s enough chatter to warrant every day and at least this way they’ll always be easy to find and jump into. Sound good?
It’s your site. Do as you like with the posts.
“I don’t think there’s enough chatter to warrant every day…”
Prepare to eat those words.
Hey, we’re only at about 100 comments after 24 whole hours! :P
We’re trying to move things over from “Things We Saw Today” after the whole subscription debacle. If that happens, prepare for the comment count to go through the roof.
Also, people are slowly realizing this site also uses Disqus, thus meaning it’s easy to come over here since they don’t need to make a new account.
Like it did in the last bunch of months before That Mis-Step.
Oh dangit, if those nut-jobs start with their whole “quota” thing again…
Works for me…
I did check to see if there was a new one today, and this makes sense.
Jill, is there any chance I can prevail upon you to restart up “The Flash Mob” articles again? We don’t need a recap, just a place where we can talk about the episode while it’s airing, or right after it.
JILL! YOU ARE A TRUE HERO!
I do what I can.
Hello everyone! Most of my freetime has gone toward a webcomic since, oh, October of last year? I don’t know that ANYONE is even reading. There are hits but hardly any conversation. I’ve had some bumps in the road…an artist that wanted to write rather than art…another one who…honestly…well. It’s a whole thing. But the new artist just started on the second chapter and it’s gorgeous work, so I’m finally sort of proud of it? (The comic is also why my avatar has changed.) But, uh, just mentioning it because it’s been occupying me, tbh. And…it’s amazing how satisfying it is to be doing something CREATIVE again -and the revelation that the only thing that was stopping me was me.
Hah, cool! I’ll read it when I get home!
Damn, your are making me feel guilty.
For not working on something creative?
Yes. Absolutely that.
(And my inability type…)
If I could give any advice…it would be to find a way to force yourself to get it done. For example, on the run up to Starfall, I started telling people about it. And I set a schedule. And I make sure to keep people updated. That way, even if there’s not a huge audience, I know SPECIFIC people that are waiting. And I’ll feel bad if I’m late.
Sooo… the self shaming technique. I am, unfortunately, and for reasons that I am too stupid to divine, immune.
Alas. What would you do, if you could be compelled to do it?
Stuff that I’ve had sitting in boxes since junior high through my twenties. Stories of a diverse group of teens trapped on an odyssey through an alien landscape, of a group of denizens of a low-income residential hotel whose building manager is now is a vampire, a group of people that are suddenly awakened from cryo-sleep in a world of zombies…
These are decades-old plots, but are still on my bucket list.
And I am fairly sure that there is not a Mare-sue among them.
Then…hm. How to say this. This seems cruel in my head.
Another way I think of it is…until you start telling your stories, no one cares about them. No one cares about any of those characters, not a bit. And they never will. And the only person that will ever regret you not telling their stories is you.
And there are some regrets that’ll weigh you down or keep you up late or remind you, in just a handful of years, less than you want, less than you think, that you’re going to die. And all those stories will die with you. Worlds will die. And no one will care except you.
So, tell the stories, if only out of spite, if only so that you are not alone, and make people care.
Is there a newsletter for The Nerdy Bird or a way to subscribe to posts through email? I ‘followed’ it on Disqus, but I’m not getting notifications of new posts.
If you have a twitter you can follow @thenerdybird but as far as email, I don’t know.
Thank you.
No newsletter for now sadly. I did look into it recently but there were some privacy issues for me on that. Not sure if any of the RSS readers like Feedly etc have options to ping you when something posts but perhaps that’s something. Otherwise, as George mentioned, articles are always posted to @TheNerdyBird on twitter first and then my personal feel as well.
And if anyone knows of anything else folks could try please feel free!
Thank you.
Things I Saw…Oh, wait….Nerdy Speakings: Firstly, the evening of November 4th is the anniversary of Yom Hashoah. Never forget. Secondly, and on a lighter and more nerdy note, I’m catching up on my comics now that exams are done.
Hey folks, just heard about this new feature. I will probably still frequent The Mary Sue before here but I appreciate the choice. Just hoping the community isn’t split…
I at least plan to be on both sites.
Anyone here on the Nerdybird a Batwoman fan? I’m trying to find a gimmick for her for my Hipster Batman project, and I’d had suggested to me to do Beatnik Batwoman: the idea of being more “lyrical” and experimental in her approach to crime fighting, open to new experiences.
Does that seem like an accurate, if humorous, take on the character?
I like it.
If I posted a link to my crappy meme/art facebook page here, would anyone be interested in liking it or checking it out? General millennial problems, nerdiness, feminism, dating, hijinks, etc. I make really shitty drawings and slap some text on the images haha.
I’d be interested!
https://www.facebook.com/mebymemes/
Read Black Canary 11 today. I have felt this series to be a bit convoluted, personally, so I’m not sure why I’ve stuck with it. I guess I just wanted to support the female led titles at DC, but now it’s ending (with issue 12?). Same with Starfire and Midnighter. Honestly I’ve really hated Midnighter. Writing was bland and confusing, and Midnighter’s concept of being “unbeatable” hasn’t proven to be very compelling so far. But I think that’s largely a writing thing.
Starfire is the only one I’m really sad over being cancelled. Oh well, looking forward to Rebirth Wondy, Superwoman, and Green Lanterns.
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ They are canceling starfire?!?! i wanted to read that one…they always cancel my favorite books….i want she-hulk back…/crys in corner
Soule’s run of She-Hulk was the best thing. I sadly only read it after it had been canceled. Starfire is ending with issue 12. The team pitched a 12 issue idea, and they were never asked to extend it. So now it will be concluding with the 12th issue as far as I’ve heard.
I require more Angie Huang! SOMEONE needs to pick that character up.
i love her. good thing is that you still see her sometimes like in howard the duck and hellcat since she-hulk is in those books a lot. i have to pick them up when i get the money…… howard the duck is an amazing book. i love those characters and the apartment complex they live in
I haven’t followed Howard, but I wish I could! I follow way too many series. O_o
i finally found some of my favorite pages from Howard! Howard “under cover” http://joequinones.tumblr.com/post/119523423651/nolongermint-cristiandcasares-howard-the
You’re like the millionth person that has said HTD is amazing. Sigh… ok universe you win, I will read the first trade!!
I don’t even know where my HTD aversion came from? Maybe the movie (which I loved as a kid so that makes less sense??)?
now i am kinda nervous you wont like it lol but come back and tell me what you think! you are reading this one right?http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Duck-Vol-What/dp/0785197729/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462569846&sr=8-2&keywords=howard+the+duck+vol+1
that’s the one! Don’t be nervous :) I will most likely like it because I have such low expectations :D
I’ve actually really enjoyed Black Canary, but I have a high tolerance for convoluted stories, plus the artwork and coloring have really kept me invested, to the point where sometimes I think the artwork is single handedly elevating the writing. The writing is by no means bad or bland to me, just sometimes the artwork makes it feel like there’s more there than there is.
I’m trying to like it, but it just doesn’t interest me. Issue ten was surprisingly interesting and I haven’t read the eleventh one yet, but I will.
That’s one of my husband’s favorites, so I have seen bits and pieces, but probably not enough to have a conversation about it. I remember LOLing at the soundtrack though. Similarly with a version of Nosferatu I saw with a score by the goth metal band called Type O Negative.
What is the Elvish word for nerd…? Closest I can come is golwen but that’s an adjective and nerd is clearly a noun. Hmm…
Has anyone read Borderline by Misha Baker? I just ordered it (despite the, uh, 20 or so books already in my ‘to be read’ pile) but it sounds so fascinating: http://books.simonandschuster.com/Borderline/Mishell-Baker/The-Arcadia-Project/9781481429788
You could combine “auqa” which is awkward/clumsy of all things/difficult and “istyar” which is scholar/learned man/lore-master/wizard.
Auqistyar perhaps?
That… might work? I dunno, I don’t know enough about how Sindarin is structured to even begin creating/combining words, that’s why I looked for an existing one that was close. :)
I forgot about Sindarin, I was actually thinking in Quenya (High-Elven). I’ll admit I’m not familiar with any formal rules Tolien laid out for combining words.
Let’s think logically though. In Sindarin Dunadan (singlular of Dunadain) is translated literally as west-man. In Quenya Elendil is literally Star-lover. Seems to present precedent for simply flowing the words together.
So, yeah. I think Auqistyar probably works pretty well. Awkward/clumsy-scholar/learned one. We geeks, if I may generalize, tend to be a somewhat awkward bunch be it socially or otherwise and we generally tend to be well versed in our interests… so yeah.
Man. This may be one of the geekiest conversations I’ve ever had.
Lol, bad enough to create a language for each race but Tolkien had to go and create dialects! Quenya, Sindarin, Noldoran, etc. I like the flow of your thought, but the a in auqa might need to stay for pronunciation purposes so Auqaistyar might be the way to go.
As an aside, this won’t translate to Sindarin as (if I can trust the dictionary I found) there’s no direct translation of istyar (auqa = rhanc) so Quenya it is! *confetti*
Had plans to celebrate May the 4th at a nerd bar, sipping blue milk and playing Star Wars bar trivia with friends, but the slight cold I’ve been nursing all day has turned into a fever. http://i.imgur.com/aexyZ0a.gif
PUDU??
It’s like the one Star Wars swear word we know: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bantha_fodder
Nooooo, pudu are tiny deer! They are not vulgar, they are the height of genteelness!
:( Get better!
Thanks! Long time no see!
I guess it requires…more cowbell! *runs away*
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you had a fever? and it requires… more cowbell? I’m sorry it was a terrible reference. “^.^
Ahh, I get it now! Sorry, I forgot the first part of line and just remembered the “I need more cowbell!” part. :)
no worries
I’m spending 5/4 watching the De-Specialized Edition of Star Wars and wishing I had a Blu-Ray that had the care and attention to detail put into it that this version does. #HanShotOnly
Anybody read any good books lately? I just finished Eidolon the second Wraith Kings books by Grace Draven. i love her books!
I just finished A HEAD FULL OF GHOSTS by Paul Tremblay. It’s an ambiguous exorcism story that focuses on the family relationships that fall apart as the parents try to deal with their eldest daughter’s issues (mental or spiritual, never really clear) while trying to shield their youngest (our protagonist, recalling the events from hazy, grammar school memory) from the worst of it. It’s a gut-wrenching story, and told quite well.
I recently read The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin, and I enjoyed it! I want to read the next in the series as soon as it comes out.
this is the book blurb:
A season of endings has begun.
It starts with the great red rift across the heart of the world’s sole continent, spewing ash that blots out the sun.
It starts with death, with a murdered son and a missing daughter.
It starts with betrayal, and long dormant wounds rising up to fester.
This is the Stillness, a land long familiar with catastrophe, where the power of the earth is wielded as a weapon. And where there is no mercy.
Joining in over here.
Also, thanks Jill for telling me which order the posts on your front page go. Knowing that certainly helps make the tile layout easier to understand.
So, are the different colors for the tiles related to articles in being different categories? Or are they just random to spice up the palette a bit?
Oh, no problem! I’m glad it helped. And the colors just change randomly. :)
i am sharing this web comic with everybody the art is cute and story interesting http://weavecomic.tumblr.com/
Hello!
Houdini and Doyle: did anyone else see it? What did you think of it? It seems interesting and fun to me, but I wasn’t sure I liked some of the casting.
Is that the new Victorian-era show over on Fox? If it is, the trailers looked really meh, though is it good? Admittedly, for my Victorian-era fix, I usually watch Ripper Street and Murdoch Mysteries on Netflix.
It was meh. The Houdini / Doyle banter was okay; the feminist plot line seemed weak and added only to attract “the ladies”. The supernatural element was….well…I hate repeating but it was okay. If Ripper Street is your goto, this will seem frothy.
But as a vaguely humorous, didn’t make me wince in pain or wail at the anachronisms, it wasn’t awful. But then I think my TV bar has been continually reset downwards.
I’ll watch again.
Are watching Penny Dreadful?!?!?!
I definitely need to catch up, as I heard it’s pretty awesome (though not very racially diverse).
It’s getting better this season!
Yeah — I wish the two male leads were more… I dunno, cast a wee bit more for the female gaze and less character-actory? I don’t find either attractive or compelling in the least, the opposite of how I find the buddy-team of Holmes & Watson in Sherlock, for instance.
The female lead is, of course, very pretty, young, and feminine despite her steely, chin-up, “I’m a cop, respect me” demeanor, dressed in an attractive Victorian pin-stripe cop uniform with a nipped-in waist, per the usual Hollywood edict of girly eye-candy. She’s supposed to be the first female Constable in London, and frankly one might assume she’d have looked a lot more like, say, Matron in hospital, which is to say a big, bluff, no-nonsense sort of older lady, but of course, no.
Plus there’s a dim-witted bit-o-fluff blonde magician’s assistant for Houdini to insult (“It’s a good thing you’re pretty or I’d have fired you”) and shtup. This despite the fact that he was famously married to a wonderfully vivid and fascinating woman, who would have been a great character for the show–I’d rather have had her than this “first Constable” creation as the female lead. The Houdinis were historically a really strong and attractive team on-stage and very happily married, but it is more convenient for them to have him an unmarried bachelor. Meanwhile Mrs. Doyle is apparently in some sort of coma in a hospital bed in order to give Doyle a reason to mope around and believe in spirits. She’s supposed to have “consumption”, but consumption don’t put you in a coma. They just want her to lie there, beautiful and silent as Snow White in her glass coffin, in order to provide a motive for Conan Doyle’s character arc.
Interesting plot with some very recent 21st-century findings about why people feel strongly that certain places are “haunted” applied as if Victorians had figured out the science of subsonic stimulation, which they had not. I’d have preferred they showed how mediums back in that era actually pulled off their cons because it’s fascinating, manipulative, and creepy all by itself. In addition to being true to the era.
Ugh, that sounds like all sorts of wrong. And BS to them for erasing Mrs. Houdini, especially when she was so fascinating.
I’ll stick to Ripper Street, thanks. It has Matthew MacFadyen (who I’ve always found attractive in that repressed British way that gets me) and Adam Rothenberg (who’s an amazing actor that should be way more famous and makes the uncouth, American cad character attractive in a “I really shouldn’t, but I really want to” way. Jerome Flynn isn’t my physical cup of tea, but he’s an extremely compelling actor and his character is outstanding and conflicted.
Plus the show overall balances the ugly, brutal sexism of the time with honestly addressing it in a non-titillating way. It also has smart, strong female characters (though they need to add more to the main cast versus just one-off characters). Especially in the second and third season. The third season especially has a female villainess who is conflicted because of the ugly sexism that has forced her rethink her place in the world and fight hard against it.
Also, the video game Assassin’s Creed Syndicate takes place in Victorian London and has two, twin protagonists who are brother and sister. Both of them are gloriously attractive and they don’t treat the female protagonist in a sexist, gross way. She dresses pretty much in the same male clothes as her brother with not a hint of weird fan service, while the brothers clothes are just and bright and colorful as hers (which is historically accurate). They also share the exact same weapon loadouts and fight just as viciously. Plus, the storyline requires both of them to contribute equally. So yeah, I’ll take both of those over whatever crap Fox is doling out.
Ripper Street, it is! I will try it.
It’s really good, though it’s pretty violent. They seem to pride themselves on showing how actually uncivilized the era was, so be warned.
I just finished reading a book about the rivalry between Leonardo DaVinci and Michelangelo and found that during their era, the society that was at the time considered the flower of Western civilization used to have professional executioners routinely torture convicted murderers and thieves to death on street corners with hot irons for the edification of the crowd that would gather for the show (all devout Christians, of course). And if the irons weren’t hot enough and the torture wasn’t graphic enough, sometimes the crowd would kill the executioner for giving a poor show. So I am beginning to realize that we are really privileged to live in a comparatively incredibly civilized era and it’s a relatively new concept in practice. Though it’s no reason not to keep fighting for more civilization and a better life for all, because we can only improve.
Oh, absolutely agree. I mean, up until rather recently, child labor was a-ok, you could beat your wife and kids (and let’s face, in a lot of plays, it’s still pretty easy to get away with), people will illnesses like tuberculous and polio were sent away to pretty die alone and so on.
That’s why Ripper Street is so good, as it doesn’t present the era as some fairytale where “men were men and women were women” who swanned about in beautiful clothes while drinking tea and being civilized. It was a brutal world, where the rich became richer as the poor died dirty, wretched and alone in the street. Add to that it’s set in Whitechapel starting from right after the Jack the Ripper murders, and you get a real sense what life was like for normal, not wealthy folks. It’ll make you appreciate living now and will NOT have you yearning for “the good old days” for sure.
I’m looking forward to seeing it, believe me. I like honesty when they do a period piece, I hate it when they make it all look so nice that idiots watching yearn for “the good old days”.
The thing about Dicken’s novels (and other popular works actually written in the Victorian era) is that Our Hero/Protagonist invariably gets saved from the orphanage/workhouse or the streets/debtors prison, and we don’t really dwell on the fate they avoided, but of course others did not avoid that fate because it was society-default. The audience is so happy that (the secretly high-born) Oliver Twist gets the home he deserves or Nicholas Nichelby happens upon the rich patrons who hire him, thus lifting him and his family from powerlessness and poverty back into the class they used to be in when his father was alive, but nobody seems concerned about the orphans left behind in the workhouse or the lower-class neighbors living in the slums the Nicholbys move away from. Popular culture didn’t dwell on them as much more than comic relief or “they’re coarse lower-class types and deserve their lot in life”. Without sympathy in the popular media, there is no social change.
I wonder if Upton Sinclair’s novels might be the first honest view of the uncivilized lives of the lower classes that got any notice from society at large, thus changing society.
I’m also worried that our own leaders seem to be leading us all down the path to that sort of uncivilized world again for the benefit of the rich.
Just a random comment:
So writers and show have confirmed on Arrow that Black Canary was killed in order to give Oliver further reason to kill Damien Dahrk. This means Black Canary was officially fridged. Black Canary was arguably most famously written by Gail Simone, who has said she has great emotional attachment to the character. Gail Simone also compiled the original list of Women in Refrigerators. I find horrible pain/irony/unsurprise in this.
I personally take solace in the fact that the CW character I view as their real adaptation of Black Canary is alive and well time travelling, but yeah the general treatment of Laurel was just abysmal. They somehow managed to fridge her for the dramatic gain of Diggle (who blames himself for trusting his brother), Quentin (who Damien specifically named as the reason he was killing Laurel), and Oliver (who needed that extra push to kill Darhk over something traumatic), which might almost be impressive if it wasn’t so offensive.
I was really, really not a fan of hers, but I appreciated that she was an awesome ass kicking lady and that LL had been through a lot as a character. I was really pissed when I found out that it was probably her in the grave, for this exact reason (re: women in refrigerators).
I do have to wonder if they killed off Laurel, in order to have Dinah (Earth 2) take her place and give us an actual meta human Black Canary (bonus of using the silver age origin). Of course that also hinges on the Black Siren persona not actually being evil and just forced to work for Zoom. If that’s the case, it is one way, while still bad, to reset the character and ignore the horrible writing that has plagued Laurel though out the show and still keep her.
I wondered that too! But the appearance of that teenage “Black Canary” in the last episode who is a super genius and a gymnast is making me think they just wanted to replace her with someone younger. :/
Okay, so has anyone seen Giorgio Moroder’s Metropolis? With the incredibly dated 80’s soundtrack? Someone else here has got to have seen it, and I feel like Clara’s got some opinions that I’d like to hear.
Is that the one where they also tinted the black and white imagery? Yeah, I was so excited to check it out, but then I couldn’t last twenty minutes watching it.
That’s one of my husband’s favorites, so I have seen bits and pieces, but probably not enough to have a conversation about it. I remember LOLing at the soundtrack though. Similarly with a version of Nosferatu I saw with a score by the goth metal band called Type O Negative.
I have eclectic parents, so it was one of the first movies I saw as a child. I found out recently it got a BluRay release, so I’ve got a copy but haven’t had a chance to watch it again yet. I’m about to find out how well it stands up, though I’m really not expecting it to.
I think it does, but that that is not the point.
I think it has relevance to the Weimar Republic. and perhaps to present company to Anime. It is an early examination to the mechanization the workforce, and society as whole. It is brilliant,and should be seen by everyone, for what it is, better and worse.
I was referring just to the Moroder edition, not to the film as a whole. The movie itself holds up surprisingly well in terms of visuals, and the story like you said has quite a bit of relevance to today’s fiction.
But I just watched about the first 10 minutes of this version (I’m going to watch the whole thing with a group next week), and the Moroder soundtrack (particularly the original songs by various artists) is incredibly 80’s and has not aged well, though that’s actually very charming in its own way.
Sorta like the soundtrack to Heavy Metal?
The only song from that that still stand is Veteran of the Psychic Wars… but that might be the lyrics by Michael Moorcock.
Haven’t seen Heavy Metal, so I couldn’t really compare. The music here definitely feels like a product of its time. That’s not to say it’s not still enjoyable, it really is, but there’s this inescapable sense of ‘this is from the 80’s’.
Which to me is not necessarily a bad thing.
I love a lot of music from the eighties.
What dates a lot of it, more than anything else, are the synths.
Agreed. And yep, synths date more than just about anything. And those tinny drums.
Oh goodness.
The woman that ran the metal section at the Berkeley music store that I used to work at ordered German Playgirl and opened it in the shipping department. The singer was the centerfold… I’m gonna stop here.
Yes, I saw it years ago.
I’ve heard of it, but I have never been able to find it! Is it available online somewhere?
It got a DVD and BluRay release in 2012, you can get it just about anywhere if you order it: http://www.amazon.com/Giorgio-Moroder-Presents-Metropolis-Froelich/dp/B006GLZW46/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1462492290&sr=8-4&keywords=metropolis
I myself found a digital copy… uh, elsewhere. I grew up with this version on VHS, but I haven’t seen it in years, so I can’t say if it’s aged well (actually, I can almost definitely say that it has not aged well, but that’s part of the charm, I think).
My SIL told me about it years ago, it was her favorite version of the movie, she’s been searching for it ever since she saw it (probably early 90’s?) so thank you very much, I’m going to blow her mind with this info!
I saw the pre-restored version in my teens (having wanted to see it since I was ten) and was afraid of seeing the Moroder version for a while, though I knew that the print would be amazing.
Now I kick myself.
He is responsible for a number of my favorite soundtracks, and a true genius of early danceable electronica. I used to have a huge collection of Moroder ST’s and Donna Summer disks back in the early 90’s, and miss them.
I don’t have anything to contribute at the moment, but this is a cool thing to see here!
Is anyone else playing Avengers Academy? I am not so patiently awaiting the start of the Civil War event…
It’s started! So far it looks a bit less difficult than the Guardians event, for which I am very grateful.
I think I soon will miss the calm between events…
My Continuum S4 dvd box finally arrived!! I don’t even remember when I bought it, hehe (about six months ago, I think).
Anyone watched this show? If you like sci-fi, time travel and high tech, I recommend it :)
It’s a great show, and it conveys some of the emotional implications of time travel that other shows often gloss over. Plus, Kiera Cameron kicks butt.
She is awesome! One of my favorite female characters ^_^
I got my Poison Ivy bombshells dress in the mail from Hot Topic today! It is inappropriate for most daily situations, but it is so cute, I do not care!
“Nerd”
Okay, now that I’m in, here is a thing:
http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/jackie-mitchell
Read the thing. Or do not. (You can even try, despite what Yoda said.)
I’ve read about her story years ago, really impressive, and all the right makings for a legendary (true) story.
…. I’ve been sitting here thinking of something to write about and failing. Consider this my “I have nothing to add, but want to be included in this thread” post.
Evening Cap’n! Seems like it’s been a while since I’ve seen you around.
Yeah, meat-life has been interfering. Nothing bad, just busy. Thanks for noticing! :)
So is anyone watching Penny Dreadful? I am really enjoying this season’s approach to mental illness, I hope it lasts!
On my list, but haven’t gotten around to it yet…
I’ve had it open in a tab for two days now, but I haven’t actually got around to watching it yet :-p I have so many mixed feelings about this show, but I’m really hoping for good things this season.
So far so good. Some thing I rolled my eyes about. But new POC cast has been added(even if one of them is a new ‘sidekick’ for Malcolm*eyeroll*), and like I said, there is a forthrightness and honesty so far in their approach to mental illness that I am really intrigued.
John Clare and Frankenstein exhaust me, as always.
That’s good to know! The lack of good POC roles has bugged me, and I’m excited to see what they’re doing with mental illness.
I never really could care much about Frankenstein’s storyline after what happened to Proteus. I can’t believe they cut that so short, but they insist on keeping the John Clare thing going. I suppose Proteus wasn’t dark enough for them >.>
SPOILER
Dr. Jeckyll appears to be a biracial Indian British man, and the anger of the racism he suffers appears to be the root of his Mr. Hyde persona.
That sounds interesting.
ooo that does sound interesting.
I just don’t want them to add POC only to side-kick them or kill them off
Jekyll and Frankenstein are Victorian Science Bros in the best and worst ways, worst being the Robin Thicke-ness in their plan.
Did anyone else feel the homoeroticism like, go through the roof when those two were in the same scene?
Which is a very thin line they are walking. I hope they did their homework otherwise it’ll be very messy.m
It’s been on my list forever! I’ll to binge the first two seasons in the next couple days, hopefully.
I love it! I need to add a Showtime subscription still. I watched the S3 premiere on Amazon.
I think you can catch it on Hulu, but I’m not certain.
I think it’s an extra eight bucks for access to the Showtime library.
You can, you just have to pay to add on a Showtime subscription. Which I’m willing to do.
I keep meaning to check it out but I never seem to get around to it.
I’m waiting for it to log a few episodes first.
I’m another who hasn’t gotten around to it yet.
Dr. Seward’s monologue was oh so grand. There was just so much great in the premiere. Permit me to ask, who’s your favorite new character so far?
The dude from the museum.
Which probably means he’s Dracula.
I hope he’s not.
I like Sweet too. He made me smile as much as Vanessa. There is something off about him (or there will be).
By definition.
I hope he just happens to be a human in the middle of this mess.
But the way he just seemed to tick all of Vanessa’s good boxes, and the fact that he forgot her name, and the fact that the two vampires were just hanging outside… It smells fishy to me. TOO fishy.
Sewald. I love them. But Sweet is VERY intriguing too.
I’ve only seen episode one of this season. It looks to be even better than last season, which was already great.
I love this show. I call it “Eva Green presents Showtime’s Eva Green and a few very good looking men’s adventure through Victorian Gothic London starring Eva Green”.
She’s just so good in it tho.
The scene stealer (though hardly, she kept trying to upstage him) was Sir Ferdinand. “I love what you’ve done with the place” indeed.
I am very intrigued by Dr. Sweet. I saw him again in the trailer so he looks to be sticking around. Fan consensus seems to be that he’s the Devil come to woo her in person, but I was struck by his dedication to the “broken, unwanted” things of this world. Yes, the Devil would say that, but IMO, so would a messiah figure like Jesus, so I wonder if he’s a THIRD “suitor”, but one who represents good instead of evil. Especially since she’s left her faith.
Hell yeah! That would be awesome! It would also play a lot with the whole “we are abandoned by God” – maybe it was just that God was always with her until she renounced him, so now he has to come in and be like “gurl, I’m here”.
so now he has to come in and be like “gurl, I’m here”.
YES EXACTLY
I mean, as a hardcore Ethan/Vanessa shipper (he’s her wolf, and she’s his master, and yet they were so happy when they were so removed from London I’m like HEART EYES MOTHERFUCKER) if God shows up looking like that, I’m all for Vanessa jumping on that ship.
Have you seen this week’s?
YAIS BOOOOO
I KNOW!!!!!
I mean, kudos to Logan for not dragging out that Sweet was Dracula (since we ALL were suspecting it from the beginning) and also kudos on Logan for making Dracula a giant NERD (assuming the persona of Sweet is part of who he is, not just a persona) but BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I wanted him to be either human or someone good.
I’m fascinated by the child vampire. He’s portraying very well the whole “imprisoned in time” kind of thing. Like, he plays jacks (and boy finding that game’s name was going to be a giant research blackhole on its origins!) but he seems to HATE playing jacks. Like he’s doing it because he can’t do anything else. I thought it was an interesting inflection of the character.
Eva Green in that hair do, lace and white dress and cloak? SWOON.
Jekyll and Frankenstein… sigh. I like the idea, I like the concept. Their date (that was a date) at the tea house was fascinating – you could see Victor’s microagressions and Henry’s loathe of the racism he’s felt. The fact that his mother died of leprosy was a great writing choice. The scene in the hospital was also terrifying (I didn’t understand what the would-be-regicide said, but honestly, I was too crept out to rewatch). It seems that when we see Mr. Hyde he’ll be a true monster, like Victor says. And yet, I can’t empathize with Victor. If his goal were to stop Lily because of what she became/is becoming, then yes, I’d be all for it (even if it seems the only option would be to kill her). This idea of getting her back to love him, blergh. Like she told you, go on a hike, dude.
Was it just me or was the girl Lily and Dorian rescued a character from Marques de Sade? Just me? Alright.
Vanessa and Sweet’s date was sweet. And fascinating to see how much Logan is going to portray what was done in Victorian London for entertainment – it was basically a night out at the movies. Though one thing I realized: I could never live in London without electricity. The idea of how dark the city was at night, even if it was early (five pm, six pm) just terrifies me.
Like I said before, Rensfield would’ve worked better if he had been a good man. This just seems an extension of who he was, not necessarily driven by Dracula.
How many cylinders did the doctor end up using tho? Probably twenty.
I’m liking what they are giving us so far with Ethan’s story. Kaestenay (?) is the equivalent to Ethan of what Sir Malcolm is to Vanessa (even if it seems Ethan dislikes Kaestenay). That alone elevates the character from sidekick to equal in my book. (They better keep it like that tho). They both took in the person they hated the most, because they were the only reminder they had of the joy they may have had before meeting them. That’s powerful in itself. What I found more powerful is that it seems that not only Kaestenay, but his whole tribe accepted Ethan. I do not know if this is accurate or not (I’m going with not), but it does portray them in a very positive light – if one is willing to repent, they forgive. That goes against the trope of Native Americans being savages, so yeah, I’m liking the narrative choice so far. Again, accuracy may or may not be achieved, and it is so far. I loved the old woman, I loved her lines, I loved how she blessed him (and I loved the quasi-fae form of respect they showed to each other, calling each other Mother and Son respectively).
And Hecate is the Lupus Dei fangirl. Does this mean she’s a groupie?
Also, the way they showed the town (I thought I saw a sign that said it was Las Cruces) it was gorgeous. Cinematography at its best.
What did you think?
I agree with pretty much everything you said. Yeah, I was hoping for something a bit more twisty on Sweet, but now I’m hoping that they will legit fall in love and he won’t want to be evil.
I feel like this season we are exploring why exactly Ethan is so important.
No sympathy for Victor, adoration for Lily/Brona, dread for John Clare’s family.
You are also not the first person I’ve read who caught Justine’s name as a reference to de Sade.
Happy Star Wars Day! May the 4th be with you!
And also to you!
Oh. forgot.
But I finally saw TFA today. The feels were overwhelming.
Yay!